
Frankly, I think that most churches, regardless of the church, are staffed with leadership that don’t truly understand the need for the application of the Cross in their own live
Even while those same leaders preach of the Cross, taking up your Cross, bearing your own Cross, and a hundred other biblical phrases dealing with the Cross, they fail to understand what that truly means.
I know this is true.
Because, right now, I am preaching (in my own head) to a 19-year-old young man who was in desperate need of this information. Who didn’t believe he needed to hear it.
That young man was me.
It is incredibly difficult to talk to church leadership today about anything that is not in line with their philosophical bent. Which is basically a New-Evangelical or Progressive-Christian bent.
Which is everywhere today in churches. It doesn’t matter where you go. Even in the more “strict” Bible churches they are struggling against this raging spirit of compromise.
And most of them are losing the battle.
By Bible churches, I mean churches that believe the Bible is the word of God and preach salvation by faith in Jesus Christ alone, by faith alone, by the word of God alone. Regardless of whatever other crap they also do and don’t teach.
Leaders today have an answer for virtually anything you might say to them. They are basically immune to rebuke, reproof, or correction. They have learned to use a kind of spiritual Kung Fu to fend off criticism of whatever they may be doing or saying.
There always seem to have a handy excuse.
Always.
And the “reprover” ends up becoming the one that is in “error”. Because the one who questions the status quo of leadership is considered to be wrong.
Always.
Flesh Takes Many Forms
The reason for all of this is simple.
The problem is that flesh or “spiritual” flesh rules in our churches – in one form or another.
Generally, it’s fueled by the pride of leadership – including the pride of those who continually preach about being a “servant leader”. Or who hold their authority because of having a formal spiritual education.
One evidence of this is as churches give increasing authority to younger men and women. Which is a very popular trend.
These youth, while formally educated, often lack the application of the Cross in their lives; despite all their education, training and internships.
And, of course, when one makes comments such as these, the inevitable response is this passage from I Timothy 4:12: “Let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity.”
Which, by the way, was spoken to Timothy specifically. To a young man who had grown up being taught by his mother and grandmother. And who had served with and was personally trained by Paul. (II Timothy 1:5)
This wasn’t given as some general reason why older, mature believers – or those nasty “elders” whom Tim Keller has referred to – should refrain from criticizing or questioning the spiritual maturity of younger men. Or of the fitness of younger people to serve and teach in the church.
Because “youth” does not get a pass.
“Youth” does not get some automatic license to serve or teach.
The Curse of Natural Abilities
Whether our leaders are young or old, the danger is always there that a Christian can live his or her life without really understanding his complete inability to do what the Lord has commanded him to do. And the more natural gifts or spiritual “aptitudes” that one has, the worse the situation is likely to become.
Because God does not need our natural abilities. At least not the way most churches and Christians think.
He only truly uses us in His spiritual work when we have reached the end of our rope. When we come to the funeral of our selves. Even to the end our dedicated Christian selves.
The Crushing Blow
In 1977, I was attending Bob Jones University as a Bible major. I was a sophomore at the time. I had been a Christian since the summer of 1972.
Over those previous 5 years, I had been very active in many types of ministries. I had served as a leader in both church and community-wide ministries. And had studied the Bible extensively.
So, I was not a tenderfoot in the things of the Bible or of the Lord.
But, one Saturday afternoon, a classmate from the church administration class (I think his name was Dan), came to my dorm room to talk with me.
We went out into the long hallway – which is where many students went to talk or study – and he opened up his Bible and started reading Romans Chapter 6 to me.
He read the passages that had to do with how we should “reckon” ourselves “dead to sin”. I listened to him politely as he read those passages. Then he finished with a few comments and said “Goodbye”.
Now, all the while, I was wondering what in the heck he was talking about. Why was he reading these passages to me? Since I had read these passages so many times before. Many, many times before.
I was no newbie to these things. I had studied many deep things. What was going on?
I was irritated and ticked at it all.
But after that I just kind of sluffed it off as some weird thing.
Because I liked Dan. He was a very down to earth guy. And so, I forgot about the incident. And moved on.
Hard Sayings that Men Cannot Receive
Fast forward to almost 50 years later.
Now, I can see what Dan had tried to share with me back then. I can now see what I was unwilling and unable to see at that time.
Which was the bankruptcy of my own spiritual abilities as a believer.
He wasn’t accusing me or warning me about something immoral in my life. Or of some other problem I had relating to an “unclean” way of living.
No. He was talking about something entirely different than what I thought.
It’s difficult to put into words what was really going on there. In truth, I was unable to see the truth at that time. I was not in a place where I could even see what he was saying.
Because unless one reaches the bottom of their own “esteem”, they will be of little use to the Lord.
Even though they may teach or preach in the church. Or pastor a great church. Or lead a great ministry as a missionary or an evangelist. Or even as a leader whose influence reaches millions of people across the world.
Because the Lord does not need our strengths or abilities or talents. And He will not use the “natural man” to do His spiritual work.
Does the Lord Need Anything We Possess?
Each of us must be brought low by the hand of the Lord before we can truly understand the “risen” life of Christ.
Yes. We may be saved. Yes. We may be “dedicated”. And yes, we may be “surrendered”.
But, just as when we first trusted the Lord for our salvation, in the same way we much each trust Him as our life.
In other words, we brought nothing to the table in obtaining salvation.
Nor did He accept anything from us other than our trust in HIM as our totally sufficiency for the forgiveness of our sins, for cleansing from all our iniquities, and for being born again and indwelt by His Holy Spirit.
We earned nothing. We merited nothing. Period.
“For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the Spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.” (Philippians 3:3)
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December 6, 2023 at 3:12 am
Many who pastor are not called by God, but have chosen this profession. Many care little about doctrine and more about getting people fired up. Rightly dividing the word is something few truly understand. Sadly, church has become a business. The pastor thinks he’s the boss.
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December 7, 2023 at 1:34 am
This is true, I also must add most of them were never truly Born-again by the Power of the Holy Spirit, they were “saved” by a human “faith”, not by the Holy spirit faith one is granted in order to hear & believe then converted, by the Will of God.
It’s a total nightmare to realize the multitudes who “confess the Lord” were never truly His Disciples. It’s a repeat of:
Joh 6:62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
Joh 6:64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
Joh 6:65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
Joh 6:66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
You see they Believed in Jesus, however they were not of the Spirit, so they could not spiritually hear His Word.
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December 7, 2023 at 9:30 am
Sadly this is true, however it does go much deeper than this. Anything not founded or guided by the Holy Spirit according to the Lord’s and His Apostles teachings is all the workings of the flesh, the “carnal mind” and it is enmity against God.
Rom_8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Which means they are “religious” after the traditions of men, not after the Spirit of God’s Word.
Bible learning institutions were never founded by the Holy Spirit of the Lord, and no where in the New Testament is having these institutions supported by the Lord’s Word. These were all established after the “traditions of men” through the Old Covenant, which was only established for the Jewish People of Israel according to the Law as instructed to Moses.
We being under the New Covenant are not bound to the ways of the Old. The Lord and especially Paul through the Guidance of the Holy Spirit gave us instructions on how the Bride of Christ, His Body, the Living Church, not built with hands are to function.
Since the beginning of the “Bible College Movement” which began in the late 1800’s, in the US they all were not built upon the Foundations of the Lord, the Rock upon which HE desired it to be built upon. Therefore since the Lord did not guide these men in starting these “institutions of Biblical learning” (in order to prepare persons for the so-called “ministries”), we find the present day Apostate church system.
Where in the Lord’s Word of the New Testament, is it taught that men must attend these institutions of “learning”, in order to serve as a pastor? Also where is it supported that those interested in serving the Lord as pastor’s/shepherds are to pay exorbitant fees in order to receive their “Masters of Divinity” diplomas, which “on paper” “proves” they are God appointed to serve?
The Lord gives warning concerning this:
Job 21:18 They are as stubble before the wind, and as chaff that the storm carrieth away.
Mat 3:12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
Mat 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
Mat 7:25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
Mat 7:26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
Mat 7:27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
This explains why we see the “Great falling away” in our present day, none of them were built upon the Rock of Jesus Christ, by the Holy Spirit.
Lord bless you!
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December 11, 2023 at 2:02 pm
Hi Cctechm7, that is interesting about the Bible College movement in the late 1800s. I really need to research that. Post-Civil War brought a whole bunch of crap into our country as if a dam full of sewage was breached.
About a week ago I attended a local Creationist presentation held at a local church. One of the things the speaker said was that there really is nothing in the scriptures about the establishment of seminaries or independent Christian schools. Meaning the job was to be that of local churches training their own people for leadership. Or something in that vein.
And there is very definitely a movement away from local church authority. In a lot of areas. Meaning other institutions or denominations take this authority upon themselves. Which means they can do just about anything they wish as long as they can still get the funding from the churches or individual Christians willing to finance their compromises. Which is why most every denomination is scabbling to keep from plunging headfirst off the slippery slope.
Doug
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December 11, 2023 at 6:42 pm
Wow, they actually shared that at the Creationist movement! Praise the Lord, it’s a confirmation, that some are actually beginning to understand.
Actually “Christian schools” rob the biblical authority from the Parents to teach their children. The “teachers” are replacing the parents, and the parents due to Biblical ignorance of what the Lord through Paul which taught they have the “Spiritual authority” over teaching their children, not any “stranger”.
Every denomination has already slipped off the slope……denominations were not the Lord’s intention, it’s been man’s all along. The Lord allowed it, because they will/are making way for the Anti-Christ spirit.
Judgement against them happened since the 1800’s if not before. The Lord does wink at ignorance for a while, then He just gives them over to their idols.
By the way it’s good to hear from you, thank you…..
Lord bless you and the family! Oh bye the way I just posted a new Blog article. I will be posting more often now that I have the “go ahead” by the Lord…….
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December 12, 2023 at 11:21 am
Hi Cctechm7, there is a guy out there that has said a number of similar things. His name is Voddie Baucham (not sure I’m spelling his name right). I don’t know a whole lot about him; so I’m not giving some blanket “OK” on all he says. But I’ve listened to a number of his podcasts and YouTube videos and he is pretty good on a lot of things. Including this whole concept of the biblical teaching of children.
He used to be a leader in the Youth Ministries movement. And was in high demand as a speaker at all kinds of youth gatherings and youth camps all over the country.
But he has changed his views drastically on all this due to what he has seen happen to churches and young people as a result. He does NOT support the separate Youth-Worship ministries of churches or those who dedicate their churches to dumbing things down so the youth will be happy or like the activities, worship, style, etc. Actually, it’s very refreshing to hear his courage on all this.
Again, I don’t know all about him; but he has a lot of guts to stand on stuff that most church leaders won’t touch.
Doug
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December 16, 2023 at 9:34 am
Greetings, sorry for the delay. Yes, I’ve known about “Voddie Baucham” for about a year or so through various sources at FaceBook, Twitter. I’ve heard very small snippets of his “teachings”, before I give my self to anyone, I search out the person or persons & their ministries, organizations where they received their “Diploma’s”, and who they associate themselves with. As with all false teachers, they will have some truths that is correct, and the Lord will use it for you to understand something He desires you to know, and to walk in that Truth He has allowed you to understand. However that never means we continue on with their teachings, which I have learned from my experiences.
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December 16, 2023 at 1:13 pm
Hi Cctechm7,
All I know of Voddie is what I have seen of his speaking on YouTube videos. Primarily his own sermons. And a few SermonAudio talks related to Youth Ministries. So, that is the extent of my understanding of him. As with all leaders, as you say, we cannot give a blanket approval on their teachings. And all the more so if it is discovered that they hold to heretical or seriously dangerous positions.
SermonAudio puts just about anyone on thir site; so they are not a source I just take at face value. I will look into these things you have said.
Doug
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December 16, 2023 at 9:51 am
Greetings I tried to reply directly from my Blog Home center, however something happened and it “posted” before I even finished my thoughts.
I’ve heard about Voddie Baucham, and when I hear about someone, before giving myself over to anyone’s teachings I first do a “search” to find out who they are, where they were Biblically Trained” what organizations they support and or promote and associate themselves with. I do not like nor trust this man. Why? Did you know he promotes the “Marshall Arts”? Well this link will take you directly to his “about” section so you may read it for yourself. For a man who teaches we should not be friends with the world, he sure promotes otherwise.
He has also been trained in various Bible Institutions which have been for decades secretly controlled by the Masonic order. You will see which institutions he has attended on the same link. He is also a “member” of the “Founders Ministries” which is an umbrella organizations by the “Southern Baptist Convention” a well known institution which as been Masonic controlled since it’s inception. If you would like detailed proof of the organizations which has been under Masonic control for nearly 100 yrs, I will gladly like to pass this on to you. However if you are not ready for it, I understand. Once the Lord caused me find this out, I was shocked to realize the depth of deception so called “main-stream” Christianity has been deceived by. May the Lord give you the grace to understand and to believe what He desires for you, and to be set free from anything that does not represent Him, for your good and safety.
The Lord bless you…..
Here is the link to Voddie Baucham’s website about section: https://www.voddiebaucham.org/about/
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December 16, 2023 at 1:33 pm
Hi Cctechm7,
Again, I will have to review these things you have said and check out these sites for myself.
I am keenly aware of how pastors and leaders love to quote unbelieving spiritual leaders in their sermons. This is a weekly problem I encounter at my own church. Where leaders bear no responsibility whatsoever to qualify the people they quote or those they lift up as great example of Christian faithfulness.
As far as the Masonic influence and pagan foundations in our government and churches, I see it as well. But have always found that to be a difficult thing to nail down or to “prove” to people. Because many of the sources who are revealing this information to us are people who have “inside” information that is not readily accessible to the public. So that we are forced to take their word for much of this stuff. I have many books on my shelves dealing with that stuff that I’ve collected over the years and have seen many of the things spoken of revealing themselves more and more in the culture and the government.
As far as Christian organizations go, I am of the opinion that denominational authority really isn’t biblically sound. Large organizations tend to go bad regardless of their purpose and size. Even great Christian schools, including Fundamental schools, go bad. Slowly and bit by bit. Because alliances are made. “Confederacies” are made (as the Old Testament says), Associations are made. And even an association of a bunch of “independent” Baptist churches can go bad due to the inevitable compromises that occur in large organizations. Who end up worrying about remaining in “business”, so to speak. Making little compromises in order to pay their bills. Pay for 401K’s and for Health Insurance benefits of the many people that work in the organizations and churches that support them (as in a denomination).
Doug
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December 16, 2023 at 4:55 pm
Yes today “churches” are nothing but non-profit Corporations it’s all a “business”, so they carry out business as usual. It’s very sad, very similar during Jeremiah’s time, when judgement was coming since only a small remnant were loyal to the Lord, however they who obey Jeremiah’s warnings were spared and did live a life “freedom” in Babylon. Those who would not believe or obey Jeremiah, were all killed, cities destroyed, Temple brought down……
The Great falling away is God’s Judgement against those who would not believe in the Truth of His Word, nor follow it……they shall enter the Tribulation since they are preparing for the Anti-Christ that is to come…..
I shudder at the thought.
Lord bless you…have a good weekend. Thank you for the discussion.
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February 16, 2024 at 1:36 am
Post Shoah, the reputation of Xtianity totally shot. By their fruits you shall know them. Actions speak louder than words, and how much more so personal beliefs in this or that or some other dead gods.
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February 27, 2024 at 12:32 pm
Hello Mosckerr,
No Christian is perfect. All of us sin. Those who reject Christ are guilty of sin as well. Every religious group has people in it that sin. The question is Christ Himself. Who do we believe He is? And are we trusting in His righteousness or our own supposed righteousness? Or our own moral code of some form?
Most of what is called “Christian” is nothing of the sort. “Fruit” is either of the Holy Spirit or it is of the flesh. Without Christ, one cannot produce Spiritual fruit; no matter how good one may think their “fruit” or “action” standard is. Without Christ we can do nothing that God approves. And our actions fall eternally short of God’s perfect standard.
Doug
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February 27, 2024 at 2:14 pm
The 2nd commandment says nothing of Sin, and everything about avoda zarah. Xtianity = avoda zarah. The new testament a forgery fraud.
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February 28, 2024 at 6:28 pm
Hello Mosckerr,
“The soul that sinneth, it shall die.” (Ezekiel 18:20)
“Therefore, by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
for all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” (Romans 3:20-23)
Doug
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February 28, 2024 at 10:01 pm
What does the prophet you quote refer with the metaphor of ”sin”? The 2nd Sinai commandment. The same question applies to you. What “law”? T’NaCH common law or Roman Statute law? The two modern legal systems of English common law totally different from French statute law. The same reality applies to Jewish common law from Roman statute law. Your language “law” lacks the required qualifier.
You admit to sin – unqualified. But qualified to the 2nd Sinai commandment, even you admit that Jesus Christ = avoda zarah.
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March 1, 2024 at 2:40 pm
Hello Mosckerr,
So, what do the 1st and 2nd commandments actually say in your language/version? Please, quote them for me so that I can better see what you are trying to say.
Are you trusting in your ability to keep the law? Or does your desire to keep the law, your trying to keep the law, or does your sincerity in trying to keep the law actually Equal keeping the law in your thinking?
Do you even believe in the concept of sin? And, if so, what is the remedy for sin that you follow?
Doug
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February 28, 2024 at 2:32 am
Xtianity worships through a long dead religion. That religion: tits on a boar hog worships dead Gods. By their fruits you shall know them Oh JeZeus false prophet.
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February 28, 2024 at 6:34 pm
Mosckerr,
Exactly what “fruits” are You looking for? By what standard have you determined those are the correct fruits? Are your fruits perfect? Will you stand before an infinitely perfect and holy God based upon your own good efforts and your own special knowledge, and the “purity” of your own good intentions? Have you kept every commandment perfectly throughout your whole life? Have you ever sinned in your life? What is the basis of your hope before God?
Is it Moses and his commandments you trust? Because Moses spoke of Christ. So, if you will not come to Christ, Moses rejects you. And you miss the whole point of the commandments.
Doug
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February 28, 2024 at 10:08 pm
Fruits of blood libels, pogroms, ghettos, which culminated in the Shoah war crimes. The revelation of the Torah at Sinai stands upon the two legs of the first and second commandments. All of the many thousands of commandments and halachot that follow there after consequent to these first two Sinai revelation commandments. Just that simple. Observance of the first commandment, doing mitzvot לשמה. Goyim worship Golden Calf translations of the Name revealed in the 1st Sinai commandment.
Moshe according to your revisionist history validated Christ? LOL Pie in the sky xxxx xxxx. Your declaration that Moshe whoreships avoda zarah – the 2nd Sinai commandment – yet you offer zero evidence which supports your revisionist history declaration that “Moses spoke of Christ”. LOL
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March 1, 2024 at 2:48 pm
Mosckerr,
What do you do with the Psalms and with Isaiah 53 which speak of the promised suffering Messiah? Who is that? And why did He have to suffer?
Doug
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March 2, 2024 at 1:09 pm
The T’NaCH has 3 basic divisions: Torah, Prophets, and Holy Writings. The Talmud patterns this relationship. The Holy Writing, the Book of Tehillem/Psalsm functions as a commentary which interpret the prophetic mussar of the Books of the Prophets. The Gemarah commentary to the Mishna, codified after the Romans destroyed the 2nd Temple, serves as a commentary to the Mishna.
The logic system of NaCH – Aggadic mussar common law – inductive reasoning. The logic of the Talmud halachic common law – likewise inductive reasoning. The church abomination never grasped the direct connection between NaCH and Talmud.
The משל of the “suffering servant” the נמשל based upon the precedents of Adam’s exile from the Garden of Eden, Noach’s exile to the Ark boat; Avram told that his future born seed/children who endure oppression in a foreign land as exiles.
Moshiach learns from Moshe Rabbeinu. Moshe argued with HaShem over the commandment to go to Egypt and redeem Israel from their exile from the oath sworn lands. The Talmud tractate Sanhedrin learns the mitzva of Moshiach, like all other Torah mizvot — applicable to all generations of Israel. Israel does not wait for the coming of the Moshiach. Assimilated Jews influenced by that and other false messiahs incorrectly assume that Israel waits for the coming of the Moshiach. Utter narishkeit! The Gemara of Sanhedrin learns the mitzva of Moshiach tied to A) Baali T’shuva B) Persons who strive to re-establish the Small Sanhedrin Cities of Refuge. The Book of דברים, the 5th Book of the Torah defines faith as: צדק צדק תרדוף — Justice Justice pursue.
The church abomination has nothing to do with Judicial justice ie “LAW”, any more than did the Court of Par’o whose Officers beat the Israelites AFTER Par’o withheld the required straw to make bricks!!!!!!!
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March 2, 2024 at 5:09 pm
Hello Mosckerr,
So, it is very difficult to understand a great deal of what you have said in your many comments. Many of which I have deleted because of your habit of referring to the gospel of Christ as bxxx sxxx. My purpose is not to make sure your comments are “approvable”. That is your responsibility to control your language in your comments. Just in case you were wondering why some of your comments were not approved. For the most part, I am interested in your being able to at least express your beliefs even if they disagree with mine.
Most all of what you say all goes back to some ancient texts and an understanding that is extremely narrow in interpretation. And very limited as far as the Bible is concerned. You seem camped out on the 1st and 2nd commandments to the neglect of the rest of the Bible. It seems noone but a very select group is able to really understand the truth as you know it. Or have been taught it by very specific teachers.
So, how is everyone else supposed to come to truth as you have? And do you even believe in eternal life? Do you believe in heaven and hell?
Doug
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March 2, 2024 at 6:09 pm
Doug 75% of European Jewry slaughtered by Xtian Europeans in less than 3 years. Nothing personal but I would sooner pee against a strong head wind than trust Xtianity.
The Talmud teaches that just as Israel gathered Mann on the Shabbat despite being told not to go out, so too the command of Moshe not to sexually approach your wives the nation of stiff necked Jews likewise ignored. Hence at the revelation of the Torah at Sinai, following the revelation of the first two commandments, all Israel thought they would surely die!
Israel only received the first two commandments before we demanded from Moshe that he go up to the summit of Sinai and receive the rest of the Torah. Never 10 commandments! Why then does the 2nd and 5th Books of the Torah list 10 commandments? Torah common law learns by means of precedents. The Torah commands remember the salvation from Egyptian bondage. Hence the language of the 10 commandments remembers the 10 plagues of Egypt.
Torah common law – not a belief system. Truth the Torah defines as path/halacha. Eternal life learned from the oath sworn to childless Avram at the brit cut between the pieces in the 3rd Parshah of the Book of בראשית — לך לך. At that oath sworn to childless Avram – that in the future his seed would number the stars of the sky and the sand upon the sea shore. Hence life in the world to come interpreted to mean that a bnai brit person would have children. The children of a man to keep the oath brit faith: the pursuit of judicial common law justice; herein defines the Torah concept of Olam Ha’Bah/world to come.
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March 4, 2024 at 8:42 am
Hello Mosckerr,
Forgive my ignorance, but does the Torah exist in an “acceptable” English translation? I would like to review that for myself if that is something that is available.
Doug
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March 4, 2024 at 7:13 pm
No. Sorry.
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March 6, 2024 at 10:24 am
Hello Mosckerr,
Have you personally and thoroughly read these texts you speak of? Have you come to these conclusions based on your own research of these texts? Or are you depending on someone else to translate them and also to then tell you what they mean?
Catholicism does the same thing. The official dictates of the church are that the interpretation of the Bible (the Latin, Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek texts that Catholicism specifically accepts) is limited to what the Pope and the Magisterium of the church has determined to be true. And that the truth is only to be interpreted by someone who is in full obedience to the hierarchy of the church. Which is generally limited to the cardinals, bishops, and priests of the church.
This doctrine means that a person like you and I could not pick up the Old or New Testaments and read it for ourselves. Believing that the Lord will reveal Himself to us personally through His word. That the sincerely seeking soul can find Christ by openly coming to Him to be taught.
This is not the case in Catholicism and a host of other religions that limit the interpretation of truth to only a few, approved people or groups of approved leaders. This is why it is sort of humorous to watch all the Catholic apologists on TV and the Web try to be apologists for the Catholic church. Because, technically, they are not given authority to do so.
The truths of what the Catholic church teaches are clearly set down in the Catechism, the Code of Canon Law, and the Canons and Decrees of the Council of Trent. One has merely to go to these sources, available in English, and find clearly what Catholicism believes. Which would be quite a shocker to those Evangelicals who think that Catholics believe in Salvation in Christ in the same way that they do. They do not. Not even close.
The point is, what or in whom are you trusting? And is that truth available to everyone? And has God made it so that anyone could read that truth and believe it in their own language? Or must they convert to Judaism of a particular kind, learn the particular dialect of Hebrew you cite, and follow the observances that your group believes in order to be right with God?
Doug
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March 6, 2024 at 12:53 pm
Which texts? Trained in the classics. T’NaCH Talmud, Midrashim & Siddur. These conclusions based upon Primary sources listed above. The Sages “sealed” the T’NaCH, Mishna, Gemarah, & Shemone Esrei, that all generations would inherit the same identical traditions upon which Jews base Torah faith. Justice Justice pursue, a direct quote from the 5th Book of the Torah. All translations suck. The Talmud and T’NaCH – both common law. Both learn by means of precedent comparative inductive logic. T’NaCH commands mussar common law whereas Talmud commands halachic common law.
Catholic dogma – deductive logic. Deductive logic has a respected place in the Oral Torah logic system. But inductive logic the most common type of logic of both T’NaCH and Talmudic common law.
No one generation as a lock on logic. Hence the Torah rejects catholic dogmatism as a perverted abomination. T’NaCH Talmudic common law rejects appeals to authority dogmatic dictates.
The purpose of sealing the T’NaCH Talmud Siddur, that all generations can interpret the k’vanna of the sealed texts. No one generation holds a monopoly over Oral Torah logic. The Catholic church dogmatism and infallibility of the Poop – an utter and complete Torah abomination.
Truth the T’NaCH defines as “path/halacha”. The destiny path of one Man no other Man determines! Something like “free Will”. However, the Talmud teaches of the Torah curse known as ירידות הדורות, which basically means: domino effect. If king Shlomo’s worship of avoda zarah began with his construction of the First Temple rather than establish the Great/Small Sanhedrin Federal common law court system in obedience to the faith: justice justice pursue. The domino effect of this ERROR, all later generations pursue the identical error!
Another example of ירידות הדורות and how it impacts and destroys “free will” (A child born in a radioactive environment develops genetic mutations.). The deductive halachic code written by the Rambam, caused all later Talmudic scholarship to focus upon deductive logic alone and cease to study the Talmud through the logic of inductive logic.
The Rambam perversion of inductive Talmudic common law unto deductive Roman statute law resulted in a Jewish Civil War. Previously, about 1000 years earlier, another Jewish Civil War threatened to rip apart the Jewish civilization in Judea. This Civil War the lights of Hannukka commemorate.
But whereas the lights of Hannukka reversed the domino effect and caused the dominos through the generations to stand. The assimilation to Aristotle’s deductive logic by the Rambam’s statute law halachic code produce a domino effect wherein the domino fell rather than stood erect.
All Talmudic scholarship thereafter based itself upon Greek logic rather than the kabbalah of Rabbi Akiva’s Pardes logic which interprets the Oral Torah revelation of Horev.
The Torah curse known as ירידות הדורות refutes the Catholic dogma of “Free Will”. Torah faith: the judicial pursuit of justice. NOT a personal belief in this or that or any God whatsoever. Justice does not stand upon the cracked foundation of personal bellief systems, theologies or creeds.
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March 8, 2024 at 12:01 pm
Hi Mosckerr,
I am just a beginning student of the things which you speak of regarding Israel’s basic struggle to just survive in the midst of all these massively larger nations which seek to obliterate them. I support Israel’s rights as a nation and to protect their people and territory. And, sadly, the US has not been a help in this fight due to many US Presidential administrations that are duplicitous in their support and efforts.
This is also compounded by the American media and the academics in our country. Who are foolish in their tendencies toward anti-Semitism and their foolish compassion for Hamas, Hezbollah, and the many larger nations that subtly support them..
I pray for Israel and “the peace of Jerusalem”. Which the Lord commands us to do in the Psalms.
Doug
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March 8, 2024 at 12:12 pm
Mosckerr,
One other comment based on your mentioning of Catholicism and their helping the Nazi’s escape after WW2; I agree with you. That is not spoken of very often. But it did occur. Which is what the “rat lines” were.
One very good souce for that information is in a book called, A Woman Rides the Beast, by Dave Hunt. Dave died several years ago but was one of the greatest teachers on such things. And also he was a strong proponent of Israel’s cause. And its unending battle against the Muslims and other groups that seek to destroy Israel. Too bad the modern Evangelical church does not teach more about such things to its congregations.
But they are adopting more Liberal and Progressive ideas today instead of biblical thinking.
Doug
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February 28, 2024 at 4:44 am
Perhaps a better question: What is not ‘Settler Colonialism’?
Deductive logic: if the premise upon which a person bases his conclusions reached – false. Then the conclusion reached equally false. Occupation a false premise. Arabs rejected the 1947 UN partition proposals. Arabs started the 1948 Israeli Independence War and lost that war to throw the Jews into the Sea.
Britain in the first years of its League of Nations mandate Palestine separated Trans-Jordan from their Palestine Mandate in 1922 at the Jordan River.
Yes of all the UN members only Britain and Pakistan recognized Jordan’s illegal annexation of Samaria which the Palestinian mandate territory Britain named: Trans-Jordan, but all other members of the UN General Assembly did NOT recognize the legality of Jordan’s post ’48 Israeli Independence war, unilateral annexation of Samaria which it renamed “West Bank”.
Therefore the premise by which Arab propaganda refers to the “West Bank” as illegal Israeli occupied territory – false. Hence the conclusions reached that Israel violates “international law”, another invalid premise. Why? Israel, since it won its National Independence does no longer exist as a UN Protectorate/Mandate territory as prevailed prior to the 1948 Israel Independence war.
Therefore the conclusion: that foreign nations, many which do not even have diplomatic relations with Israel, can determine the “international borders” between Israel and its Arab States neighbours – equally false.
Gazans elected Hamas into power in free elections monitored by the UN and “international law” Arab propaganda loves to use as a cudgel to hit the Jewish state with. Actions of Oct7th Abomination have their consequences. If Gazans can stand the justice of the Israeli IDF, these refugee Arabs must leave all land, territory of Judea, Samaria and Gaza.
The Oct 7th Abomination War evil walks hand in glove with evil. The accusation of genocide used to blacken the Jewish state of Israel qualifies as a “Blood Libel” disgrace which condemns Europeans and all other nations who attempt an “international pogrom” against Israel – through their bogus “international courtrooms”. No “international courtroom” ever condemned the Nazi racialism prior to the outbreak of WWII.
No “international courtroom” ever condemn Pius XII and Catholic Church efforts to conceal Nazi war criminals and assist their escape from justice by aiding them to flee to South American countries. No “international court” condemned the British ‘White Paper’ or FDR’s closing the US borders to refugee Jews attempting to flee the Nazi Death Camps.
Jesus warned against false prophets who cry: “Cease Fire NOW”, “Apartheid!” He declared: “By their fruits you shall know them.”
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