
It used to be, if someone was concerned about a problem in the church, that the leaders or even the pastor would not hesitate to find out what was on a person’s heart.
They would want to know what the problem was. To discuss it and to make any changes in the church that might need to be made.
Way back when.
Over the years, I’ve had many personal meetings with pastors and church leaders about doctrine, church practice, etc. Because they were actually interested in my concerns. They were actually more focused on truth than they were about their own schedules or about the programs of their church.
But not so much anymore.
Today, most of the leadership in our churches simply want your “buy in”. They want your participation. Your hard work. And your money.
They’re not really interested in any doctrinal concerns you may have. Or anything that might be critical of the style of worship or content of their teaching. Or any concerns over the associations that the church has entered into to “minister to the community”. Or to fulfill the Great Commission. Or to advance some Christian, social-concern program – whether locally or nationally.
What this means then, for all practical purposes, is that they will just ignore what you have to say.
A Kind of Skill
They will ignore your warnings about any possible dangers to the church. And they will deny that there is any real issue at stake.
Although, outwardly, they have perfected their show of diplomatic “concern” for everyone. They have learned how to “blow you off” without actually being seen to be “blowing you off”.
This actually seems like a kind of skill. Or a special “gift”, in a manner of speaking. Maybe they even teach this in the seminaries these days. As a kind of strategy for leaders to advance a Progressive agenda in the church while avoiding ever having to deal with irritating Christians who raise warning flags about their agenda.
In this way, the fragile “reality” held by Christian leaders remains intact.
And their church initiatives, programs, and outward show of “unity” continues undisturbed.
And their illusion of being “loving” remains intact as well.
The Church Copying the Ways of the World
This is, of course, exactly what most of us have been experiencing from the current political powers, the popular culture, and the mainstream media.
They have perfected this exact same technique.
It’s called “gas-lighting”.
We see it all the time from the Leftist political class and the Leftist-leaning media.
They deny that a problem exists. They ignore the problem. They refuse to report on the problem.
And then they respond to those who would dare to mention the problem by treating those individuals as if they were “dangerous” people. Or as if they were spreading dangerous “misinformation”.
Or they will just characterize those individuals as divisive, extreme, crazy, obsessed, wacko, or even “dangerous”.
And never really deal with the problem.
And never really acknowledge that a problem even exists!
Learning the Ways of the World
Modern Evangelical church leadership has learned this technique very well. They have become very proficient at it.
And they’ve used it to marginalize, ignore, and even preach against those who would mention the compromises and corruptions in their churches.
To single out those who might mess up their plans to transform the church into a bigger contemporary mess than it has already become.
VERSE: “And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.” (Romans 12:2)
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October 5, 2024 at 9:52 am
Thank you for sharing this very important truth!
I started to see that back in the mid to late 90’s!
I’ve been out of the corporate church organization, for the past 20 years, because there is no longer the Holy Spirit guiding and leading teacher/pastor’s because most of the “modern” day church so-called leaders are truly NOT born-again, they are religious, just as the Pharisees in their day.
I will affirm that you are correct, ALL Bible Colleges, Universities, Seminaries are teaching them how to be “successful” leaders in a “worldly manner, and none of them actually have ever been instituted by the Lord and His Holy Spirit Why?
They’ve been building the present day Corporate Church system after the “philosophies & traditions” of men, as warned by the Lord and Paul!
They are all corrupt, and are built upon the “sand” for the fruit of the flesh is nothing but death, and the “Great” falling away, because their “human faith” is not after the Faith of Christ, which we. who are truly Born of the Spirit do walk in.
That is why the Lord has been calling His People, who walk in the Spirit, to “come out from the Harlot system”! Those of us who do hear the Voice of the Lord, do come out, so many are not hearing the “voice of the Shepperd” because Jesus said it Himself, “MY Sheep, hear my Voice”…
So who’s voice are they listening too?
Most main-stream churches are Nationalists Christians, who support “Dominion Now Theology”, which is totally the Anti-Christ spirit, preparing the way for the “man of Lawlessness” the Anti-Christ himself.
Very sad, sobering, and terrifying to see this happening, however Paul did warn this was to come.
Lord bless you….
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October 6, 2024 at 1:10 pm
Hi Cctechm7,
Thanks, as always, for your support. There is a lot that you’ve said which I agree with. And a lot which I do not know enough about to make a clear statement on at this time.
However, my belief about denominational authority is that it simply has no basis in the Bible. The concept of elders in a local body or even elders in a regional area is what is seen in the book of Acts. But no authority beyond that. The local church is the limit of the authority that I can see biblically for today.
But, of course, that is not popular.
Because reaching large numbers of people and creating coalitions and associations is the primary focus today. Churches will set aside solid teaching and defense of the faith on clear biblical truth; replacing that responsibility with of an outward show of “unity” in an association. All for the purpose of showing “love” or “tolerance” or for “the greater good” that can be done for “the cause of Christ”.
The phrase “Nationalist Christians” seems to come up a lot in discussions that I see among Christians as well as what our local pastors have been preaching against. In the past, I thought the woke Evangelicals were just preaching against the Conservatives (normal, patriotic Americans that are also believers). But this must be something much different than that.
This is something which I will need to read more on. You have spoken to me before on the Dominion Now Theology. Which I appreciate your bringing up.
So much apostasy. So little time to research it all.
Also, lately, it seems that there are these small, little pockets of Christians who are springing up in these main denominations that are trying to be faithful to the word of God. Even in the face of the overall apostasy of their denomination. As in a small, local church that suddenly itself with a believing pastor with a backbone. But, as you said, they need to get out of those denominations rather than try to fight against them and try to change them. Which never works. The small groups end up being the ones that get “changed”.
Doug
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October 7, 2024 at 9:18 am
Amen!
That is why Paul warned: “2Ti_3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.”
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